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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS

Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

Mary Lai

Vice President-Investor Relations, Nextracker, Inc.

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OTHER PARTICIPANTS

Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

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MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION SECTION

Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Okay. Let's get started with the next one. Up next, I have Nextracker. Howard Wenger, President, he is joining us today. So thank you for coming to our conference. Howard, you guys have had an incredible journey going IPO not too long ago. But for the benefit of the audience, can we start with just a quick introduction of the company, what the company does and how you go about it? Thanks.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

Sure. So Nextracker our founded in 2013. We are a solar tracking company, meaning we provide all the hardware to track the sun for large-scale solar and also distributed generation projects. With our technology, you can produce more than 30% or up to 30% more annual energy than a fixed-tilt system. We build in a lot of intelligence in software and in hardware. We were part of Flex. The company was sold to Flex in 2015 and we just spun out of Flex in January. So we're fully independent company and we've grown historically at a CAGR of about 30% for the last six years. And in our last guidance, the midpoint of our guidance was about $2.45 billion in revenue for our fiscal year 2024, which is ending at the end of this month.

QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION

Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

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Thanks, Howard. So you guys are the dominant player in the tracker market. So you guys see utility-scale, solar is roughly 25 to 30 gigawatts a year. I'm guessing you guys have close to 45% to 50% market share. I know the official numbers don't say that, but that's my - my guess is it's north of 40%, let's put it that way. Does that sound about right?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Well, we can't comment on the market share. We rely on third parties. We think that we're doing well in the marketplace. We had a really good year after going public in February of 2023. We've had three reporting quarters. We've met or beat expectations every quarter, raised guidance. So things are going well. We've had a good run so far, Phil.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay. Yeah. So all through last year, you guys booked roughly $1 billion a quarter. I know you give us information to kind of triangulate to that number. So our rough estimate is maybe 4-ish billion dollars for bookings, all throughout last year. Tell me if I'm wrong or where do we need to be nudged?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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So what we talk about is how we manage the company annually, because in the large-scale solar business, projects are typically $100 million to $300 million investments each. These are really big projects that can move quarter-to-quarter in terms of when we ship.

So revenue can shift quarter-to-quarter. So we really focus on annual numbers and that includes our backlog. We have significantly over $3 billion in backlog as reported last quarter, 300 - sorry, $3 billion bookings in our backlog. Phil is really good and Roth is really good under his leadership in triangulating what our bookings are. We do not report that. And so we'll leave you to your own conclusions, Phil.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay. Fair enough. Thank you. Appreciate that. And well, so the question next is, what kind of - we've been writing a bunch about how things are kind of slowing down for some US utility-scale players out there. We did a survey two weeks ago. I think a quarter of the 20 respondents, 24 volumes - COD is going to be lower now than they were three months ago for their same pipeline.

They said nine out of 20 respondents sent for their 25 CODs, it's lower now versus three months ago. So there's a little bit of slowdown. So thus far, you guys have been able to avoid showing any of that slowdown. My guess is because you maybe winning some market share. But at some point because of your market share, being so big and high, the market, kind of, friction, I wonder, might impact you guys. So what are your thoughts on that? Doyou see that happening already or do you think there are still enough share to be won to be able to offset that? Thanks.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

First of all, what we do is we pull back and look at the macro demand for solar power and it's strong still globally in the key markets. The US being the number one market in the world for large-scale outside of China, and that's both in volume and also the economics are superior in the United States. And so what we're seeing is actually increased levels of development, meaning more investment from development and owners in large-scale solar. We're seeing our pipeline is actually growing over time. It's strong. There are headwinds and tailwinds we talk about. There are a number of headwinds that can cause a particular project in an owner's portfolio to move to the right and be delayed. It can be a high-voltage transformer or switchgear or not getting an interconnection agreement or not getting final approval to move forward.

So things can move. We've seen some projects pull forward. And for us, I guess, being the market share leader, we have about 34% global market share in tracking. We have - and the third of our businesses outside of the United States, we have a diversified enough portfolio that we're managing to and so far, the results speak for themselves. We've been up and into the right and growing. We still see strong demand. It's a dynamic market. We're paying a lot of attention to the headwinds and the tailwinds.

We had on our last call in February. We're going to have our next call - we're targeting to May.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Yeah.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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And so that will be our annual call where we give an annual forward-look and look back...

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Because your fiscal year is ending March.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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March 31st. Correct. And so there will be more color and since we're annually driven on our outlook for the coming months. But I hope that's been helpful.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Yeah. Thank you, Howard. So do you think the mix of your bookings might shift to become a little bit more international, if you ask me, possibly slowdown a bit? Or can you comment on that mix at all?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

We're really happy we are the leader in on four continents, and we're really happy with the progress in some international markets, namely Europe, India, portions of Latin America are coming up, and Australia, where we have over half of the tracker is in Australia and other parts of Oceania are now developing projects. So there is - we're seeing both demand being strong internationally and in the US. And sure, it can shift from one to the other.

One more data point. We've typically been between 25% of our business international, plus or minus, and 50%. The trend in what we've signaled over the last couple of earnings calls is one-third international, two-thirds US. And what we said in our last call is we see that continuing.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay. That makes continuing for - is that bookings mix or is that revenue mix?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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We talk about revenue.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay. Yeah. What do you think the bookings are?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

I can't remember if I gave any color on that. But I would say it's quite consistent.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Consistent [indiscernible] (00:08:57).

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Yeah.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Yeah.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Thank you.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Yes.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

So we've written that some EPCs have shared with us that you guys might be playing a different game in the recent years, meaning you've booked a lot of these volume commitment orders and basically you're pulling the demand through the EPCs, whereas some others might still be going to the EPCs direct, trying to win their business. If you've gone to the asset owner and they then engage the EPC, then the EPC has no choice. And so what percentage of your revenue these days do you think is from the asset owner themselves?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

So we're working with both. Okay. We are very focused on EPCs and we're very focused on the owners. The EPCs have a lot of say in the value chain. They are our partners. We work hand in glove with them. We train them. We have a PowerworX program. They get certified on our product. They get on our platform. We train their legions of boots on the ground on how to use our product.

Thousands of construction workers work for these EPCs. And they're just an extreme focus for us is partnering with the EPCs. And they're the company that we typically ultimately contract with on each individual project. Now, in parallel, we have focused on owners and we've signed multiyear agreements with them where with some of the owners, it's their entire portfolio and it puts us in a partnership position with the owner. And the reason why the owner wants to do this is they're getting a lot of value in terms of guaranteed supply, certainty on pricing. We dedicate engineering for them. We value, engineer every system. So we're more like a partner to them. And we believe we have the best technology in tracking, in software and hardware, that it's not just about the upfront price, it's about the levelized cost of energy, and the owners are very focused on unlevered return on their investment.

So we're delivering lower installed cost [indiscernible] (00:11:17), lower installed O&M, operation and maintenance, and higher energy yield. And that appeals to owners and that's why there's sort of this self-selection between owners and Nextracker.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Great. And so when you think about that mix, like, do you think most of - like is there a majority of either bookings or revenue are coming from owners these days or do you think is it a minority?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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We'll look to provide more color in the next call...

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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...on that.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

All right.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Sorry. We are in a quiet period and...

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Yeah. You're still here, so we thank you.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Yeah. No, it's a pleasure to be here.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

All right. So we wrote recently that Array might be lowering price. It took a couple of years maybe for the CEO to kind of put his cost down roadmap in place and they've seen some fruit of that now and so they may have the ability to lower price and then maintain a margin. And so, we wrote last year that you guys were doing a really good job winning a lot of share. And so they want to keep that price high. They maybe weren't ready yet. And so, we've heard from three players now, pricing is - keep becoming more competitive. Have you guys started to see that on the field?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Well, first of all, we have significantly over $3 billion in backlog, okay, with locked contracts, deposits, timing on project, specific projects, that gives us a lot of visibility for revenue going forward. Okay. We are very comfortable with our cost structure. We mobilized the supply chain.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

And you've been consistently lowering cost structure...

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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We have been.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

... time, because we all - how many co-founders are we? Five or four?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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There's six.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Six. Sorry.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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And all six are here.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

All six are still there. Right.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And so we're really maniacal about cost reduction scaling up. We work with the largest steel mills in America directly. We've scaled up. Again, we have more than 15 facilities in US now that we stood up. We can deliver up to 90% domestic content, okay, for our owner partners to realize the 10% bonus ITC. So we feel really good about our cost structure, ability to compete. It's a competitive world. Capitalism works. And so their...

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

... is good. And it drives innovation, it drives cost reduction and it drives price reduction, which in solar, we want over time. You look, we've reduced the price of solar 10X in the last 15 years. Okay. That's why solar is the number one source of new power generation in the United States last year. It's because the cost and the price have come down. So pricing, it is competitive. It's a competitive field, always has been. And we're in position to keep competing. But we feel good about where we're at.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Okay. So I can push you now actually because...

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Yeah, push...

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

...but my question is on the field, in the room, like negotiation - at the negotiation table, are you hearing about some of this, hey, Array gave me a little bit of better number. Can you help a brother out? Give us another half penny or something. Are you getting into that kind of conversation yet with some of these customer negotiations?

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Pricing comes up in every conversation we've had and there are competitors in our space and it is on the table always. It's nothing new.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Nothing new.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Nothing new. And I'm not going to comment on their strategy or what they're doing.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

That's fair.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Yeah.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

I'm just wondering if you've been hearing it from others, from your customers. We can leave it. It's fine. Thank you, Howard, for entertaining those questions multiple times.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

Well, I want to say that there's been talk about 45X in this context, the manufacturing incentive and how - one of our competitors say oh, we're giving that to our customers. I mean, I think and we think that's the wrong way to think about 45X. 45X is a government policy to incent companies like ours to bring in manufacturing into the United States so that it's competitive. It bridges the gap between internationally supplied parts and US manufactured parts. That was the intent of 45X.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

So you need to keep some of that or a lot of it in order to be able to keep...

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

I'm not saying how much we're keeping or not. It's just part of the COGS equation, and it does enable us to localize our product and make it competitive with the international. And then there's a benefit of it being local. Our parts are really heavy. The trackers are really heavy. These tubes that are being incentivized by 45X, their 100 pounds, 150 pounds, 200 pounds each.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Yeah.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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When you stack them on a truck, you want the manufacturing local to where the projects are and that's what we've done. So there are some structural enhancements by localizing it. Our logistics costs have come way down. We're not shipping these tubes from Asia.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

Right. Right.

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

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Yeah.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

So this morning, there were some news. There was an 8-K that indicated that the CFO is transitioning to a chief accounting officer role. We were expecting the CFO, Dave Bennett, to be here today. Unfortunately, he's not. So can you talk about the transition? The new CFO is Chuck Boynton, which I believe I know from his SunPower and 8point3 days. And so he was...

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Howard J. Wenger

President & Director, Nextracker, Inc.

A

That's right.

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Philip Shen

Analyst, ROTH Capital Partners LLC

Q

...he's been [indiscernible] (00:17:10) for many years. And so how did this come about? Dave seems great -I mean, seems great. Like what, he's been with you for the whole IPO ride. Why do you guys need to bring in a new CFO? Thanks.

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